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Joe Trinsey's avatar

Love the article and I share similar thoughts on Kohn's work. I'll be checking out Yeager's book; thanks for the recommendation. I'm curious to see how he arrives at the 50% winning mark. My mathematical brain finds it pleasing, but my background experience tells me that number is either too low or is a floor and not the number to shoot for.

(For background, I'm a volleyball coach. I got my start as many do coaching high school and kid's travel ball, eventually moved up to the college ranks and then professionally, including with the 2016 Olympic team. Now with a kid of my own I've sidestepped off the professional coaching carousel and am back coaching kid's volleyball again.)

We know from Loss Aversion that the cost of a loss is greater than the gain of a win. Failure does give feedback, but I'd contend that learning is, on average, higher from success than from failure. I think the optimal win rate is probably closer to 60 or 67% than 50%. Or perhaps, said differently, the player/team who wins 2/3 of competitions will improve faster than the player/team who wins 1/3 of competitions.

I think the field of competition also matters. You will basically never see somebody reach a high level in a combat sport (boxing, MMA, etc) with a 50% win/loss record. The cost of losing is high! And the memory of a loss changes how you compete in the future. Academic disciplines are probably not the same, but I wonder if major creative works like novels or music albums are similar: my guess is the vast majority of authors who see their first book flop never write a second one. That also suggests that finding ways to compete in lower-stakes ways (start a Substack instead of writing a book, etc) is critical. Enough rambling for a comment.

Brandon Hendrickson's avatar

As a former fan of Alfie Kohn's, I just have to say that I literally guffawed when I saw the ballsiness of your subtitle — the perfect instantiation of your thesis!

More to the point: thanks for writing this. My own imagination needs to be stimulated in this way.

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